Legislature(2021 - 2022)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/21/2022 01:00 PM Senate FINANCE

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01:00:55 PM Start
01:01:55 PM SB199 || SB200
02:36:19 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 199 PERM FUND; PERMANENT FUND DIVIDEND TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 200 PERMANENT FUND DIVIDEND; 25/75 POMV SPLIT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
2-Minute Time Limit
Call In/Sign Up by 2:30 p.m.
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 199                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  relating  to  use of  income  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
     permanent  fund;   relating  to   the  amount   of  the                                                                    
     permanent fund dividend; relating  to the duties of the                                                                    
     commissioner   of  revenue;   and   providing  for   an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 200                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  relating  to  use of  income  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
     permanent  fund;   relating  to   the  amount   of  the                                                                    
     permanent fund dividend; relating  to the duties of the                                                                    
     commissioner   of  revenue;   and   providing  for   an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:01:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RENN  NELSON,   SELF,  CRAIG  (via   teleconference),  spoke                                                                    
against both bills.  He testified that he would  like a full                                                                    
statutory Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop stated  that testimony  should be  strictly                                                                    
about the bills.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:03:59 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:04:22 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:04:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  SMITH, SELF,  WASILLA (via  teleconference), testified                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:07:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDWARD MARTIN  JR., SELF, KENAI (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
against  the  bills.  He  testified in  support  of  a  full                                                                    
statutory  PFD. He  felt that  the legislature  was breaking                                                                    
the law. He stated that his family had a history in Alaska.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:09:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  SQUYRES, SELF,  RURAL  DELTANA (via  teleconference),                                                                    
spoke against the  bills. He felt that the  bill should have                                                                    
more committees of referral.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:11:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PHILIP   PRAX,   SELF,   FAIRBANKS   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the bills.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:14:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALLEN HIPPLER,  SELF, ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
against  the  bills.  He  felt  that  the  bills  should  be                                                                    
combined with a constitutional spending cap.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:15:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE   PIERCE,   SELF,   KASILOF   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the bills.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:18:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GAIL  LIMBAUGH-MOORE, SELF,  SOLDOTNA (via  teleconference),                                                                    
spoke  against the  bills. She  expressed  concern that  the                                                                    
committee was not following the law.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:19:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHEILA   SCHATZ,   SELF,   WASILLA   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the bills.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:21:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALAN  RAMOS,  SELF,   WASILLA  (via  teleconference),  spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:22:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RON   JOHNSON,   SELF,   FAIRBANKS   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in support  of  both bills.  He  felt that  there                                                                    
should  not be  such  a strict  adherence  to the  statutory                                                                    
dividend,  because the  statute was  written at  a different                                                                    
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:24:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  COONS,   SELF,  PALMER  (via   teleconference),  spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:26:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BERT  HOUGHTALING,  SELF,  BIG  LAKE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified  against the  bills. He  spoke in  support of  the                                                                    
statutory PFD.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:28:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GREG  WEAVER,   SELF,  MATSU  (via   teleconference),  spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:31:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOEL SIGMAN,  SELF, WASILLA (via  teleconference), testified                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:33:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA  PERRY, SELF,  SOLDOTNA  (via teleconference),  spoke                                                                    
against the  bills, and  testified in  support of  the 50/50                                                                    
POMV split.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SALLY JOHNSON, SELF,  PALMER (via teleconference), testified                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:35:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL GARHART,  SELF, WASILLA (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:37:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA  TYNDALL,  SELF,  NORTH POLE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in opposition  to the  bills.  She remarked  that                                                                    
there were very high costs for groceries and oil.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:39:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHERMAN   LEIFER,   SELF,   PALMER   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the bills.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:39:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CYRUS  COOPER,  SELF,   HEALY  (via  teleconference),  spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:42:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILLY  KEPPEL, SELF,  QUINHAGAK (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:43:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIANNE   MACRAE,   SELF,   KASILOF   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the bills.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:45:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN  DOTSON, SELF,  KETCHIKAN (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:45:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUSTIN  HOOPER, SELF,  ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), felt                                                                    
that there  was not  much change, and  stressed that  it was                                                                    
very difficult for him to survive financially.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:48:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  BRIDGE, SELF,  KENAI  (via  teleconference), spoke  in                                                                    
support of the  committee, and remarked that  five dollars a                                                                    
day could be considered a lot of money to some people.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:50:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUNSHINE  KONOVALOV,   SELF,  HOMER   (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the bills.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:51:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDA  BRANSON, SELF,  HOUSTON  (via teleconference),  spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TONDA LUNDIN, SELF,  WASILLA (via teleconference), testified                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:54:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEE COOPER, DISABLED VETERANS OF  DENALI BOROUGH, HEALY (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke against the bills.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:56:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALLISON MOE, SELF, ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference), spoke in                                                                    
opposition  of the  legislation  and  expressed concern  for                                                                    
cutting the PFD and imposing taxes.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:57:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  MATTIE,  SELF,   LAZY  MOUNTAIN  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
expressed concern  that money was  being taken from  him. He                                                                    
spoke against the bills.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:58:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE SWAIN, SELF,  ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), testified                                                                    
in opposition of the legislation.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:59:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIE MOORE, SELF,  SOLDOTNA (via teleconference), testified                                                                    
in opposition to SB 199. She wanted her PFD money.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:00:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAGNUS  SAMPSON,  SELF,   DILLINGHAM  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
spoke against the bills.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:01:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDSEY RHODES, SELF,  KENAI (via teleconference), testified                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:02:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFFREY    ACKERMAN,    SELF,     KENAI    PENINSULA    (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke against the bills.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEREMIAH HAMRICK, SELF,  WASILLA (via teleconference), spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:06:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY    NASH,    INTERIOR    PATRIOTS,    FAIRBANKS    (via                                                                    
teleconference), testified against the bills.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:07:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  TOLOTTA,  SELF,   ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the bills.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:09:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GREG  COLLINS,  SELF,   HOMER  (via  teleconference),  spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:10:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DUSTIN   AARONSON,   SELF,   KENAI   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the bills.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:12:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DONALD  BULLOCK, SELF,  DOUGLAS (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
in favor of the bills.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:13:51 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:29:02 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:29:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE  GELDHOF,   BOARD  MEMBER,  PERMANENT   FUND  DEFENDERS,                                                                    
JUNEAU, testified against the bills.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:32:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THERESA GROVES, SELF,  FAIRBANKS (via teleconference), spoke                                                                    
against the bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:33:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE  ROBBINS,  SELF, FAIRBANKS  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified against the bills.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:34:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  BONNER, SELF,  ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
in support  of SB 200. She  stated that she did  not support                                                                    
SB 199.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop  CLOSED public  testimony. He  discussed the                                                                    
following day's agenda.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB  199  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SB  200  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 199 - SB 200 Opposition Letter Packet 1.pdf SFIN 2/21/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 199
SB 200
SB 199 - SB 200 Opposition Letter Packet 2.pdf SFIN 2/21/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 199
SB 200
SB 200 Opposition Letter Horvath.pdf SFIN 2/21/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 200
SB 200 Opposition Letter Banner.pdf SFIN 2/21/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 200